tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post6782010546575219901..comments2014-02-14T11:41:49.482-07:00Comments on Lee's English 10 2013-2014: 5th hour fishbowl #3: p. 18--89Lauren Leehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09913185724079645637noreply@blogger.comBlogger61125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-41721443387148745122014-01-28T13:03:02.007-07:002014-01-28T13:03:02.007-07:00I think Montag would want it to be peaceful becaus...I think Montag would want it to be peaceful because I feel like he is over all of the violence and he wants to start seeing some color in his dark, gray, and dull world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-41762959528414451972014-01-28T13:02:38.875-07:002014-01-28T13:02:38.875-07:00In order to have peace there has to be a war. But ...In order to have peace there has to be a war. But not in this case, I think montag can change the way his people think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-72655391949550892292014-01-28T13:01:54.861-07:002014-01-28T13:01:54.861-07:00Who says that sacrifice has to be peace? Im not ne...Who says that sacrifice has to be peace? Im not negating what you have to say, but do you think that there are other things to give up other than peace in a war? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-65941547035922404992014-01-28T13:01:19.844-07:002014-01-28T13:01:19.844-07:00I think Montag would want it to be a peaceful war ...I think Montag would want it to be a peaceful war because I feel like he is over all of the violence and just wants to see some color in his dark, gray, dull world. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-898807781322654082014-01-28T13:01:03.189-07:002014-01-28T13:01:03.189-07:00I don't think that war can ever be peaceful. O...I don't think that war can ever be peaceful. One side always has to lose something in order to gain something.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-25823517844045991932014-01-28T13:00:56.004-07:002014-01-28T13:00:56.004-07:00I honestly think that Clarisse is described as mor...I honestly think that Clarisse is described as more angelic because she sees so much value in the world she lives in than so many other people such as when she tells Montag on page 7, "theres dew on the grass in the morning." and she is able to slow down and observe the world. And this has made her happy and given her a calm heart. Whereas Beaty is for the government and hes just going through the motions and he is violent and aggressive person. He is not happy, but finds the urge to smile through burning books and acting angry. I think this is why they are portrayed so differently within the text. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-61034043903539808202014-01-28T13:00:53.201-07:002014-01-28T13:00:53.201-07:00On page 86, Faber mentions several times how he is...On page 86, Faber mentions several times how he is "cowardly." I think this is how a lot of people that read are, they're afraid to let people know, but on the other hand, you have the lady that was willing to die with her books. Do you think Montag will be more like Faber with his reading and not want anyone to know, or do you think he will be more like the woman, and be open about it and willing to give things up, eventually maybe even his life, for the freedom to read?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-30454962253116458282014-01-28T13:00:47.179-07:002014-01-28T13:00:47.179-07:00I don't think it will be a peaceful. Is it eve...I don't think it will be a peaceful. Is it even possible to have a peaceful war?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-4238866723688191852014-01-28T13:00:15.644-07:002014-01-28T13:00:15.644-07:00The "normal person" in society isn't...The "normal person" in society isn't necessarily in tune with his/hers emotions. In the beginning of the book Clarisse throws Montag off guard by asking if he is truly happy. Then Montag comes to the realization that he doesn't know if he is happy. So I think Mildred believes she is truly happy, while she actually is not. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-25561024599870231372014-01-28T13:00:02.255-07:002014-01-28T13:00:02.255-07:00I think wording it as angelic and devilish is misl...I think wording it as angelic and devilish is misleading. I think it is more of dream and reality, or innocent and impure. I think Clarisse had opinions of things, but they were so lighthearted and had no backing, just mindless thoughts really. So simple. And Beety had experience. Beety knew the truth and knew things were not as simple as things may seem for everyone else. They were not clean and innocent like Clarisse, but perverted and blunt and harsh. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-60202626162083110102014-01-28T12:59:58.938-07:002014-01-28T12:59:58.938-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-750354456297811682014-01-28T12:59:57.419-07:002014-01-28T12:59:57.419-07:00I think that it's the first event to do someth...I think that it's the first event to do something about the wrongness of the situation, but I think that in the beginning when he had met Clarisse and she had questioned it, he was trying to act like it wasn't bad only because it was by law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-17524003643392632452014-01-28T12:58:08.156-07:002014-01-28T12:58:08.156-07:00I dont think this could be a peaceful war. There i...I dont think this could be a peaceful war. There is always sacrifice for progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-45108986458824579272014-01-28T12:55:55.451-07:002014-01-28T12:55:55.451-07:00I think books have made Montag start to question b...I think books have made Montag start to question both the world they live in and the relationships he has with others. In the beginning of part 2, it talks about friendship, and eludes to Montag thinking about relationships, and wanting to have good relations with everyone including Mildred.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-17769773030585927682014-01-28T12:55:08.498-07:002014-01-28T12:55:08.498-07:00I think the author is wanting you to pick sides an...I think the author is wanting you to pick sides and maybe even root for a character to prevail. It also shows how the author is persuading you that Beaty is the one at fault and Clarisse is the voice of reasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-3475744345268329512014-01-28T12:54:43.553-07:002014-01-28T12:54:43.553-07:00"I'm not thinking. I'm just doing lik..."I'm not thinking. I'm just doing like I'm told, like always"- Page 88 <br />In this statement we get the sense that Montag is telling the truth but withholding his intentions. With the type of job that he grew up with, (Non Peaceful) is this how he will lead a rebellion or will it be a peaceful war?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-12687365210419370472014-01-28T12:54:36.208-07:002014-01-28T12:54:36.208-07:00I think that this really shows the extremes that a...I think that this really shows the extremes that are in Montags life. He has two people who are hugely impactfull in his life and one is negative and one is really positive. I think these two are such a big part of the story because we want him to go on the path that Clarisse was leading him towards.<br /> Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-14432665812323982742014-01-28T12:54:34.981-07:002014-01-28T12:54:34.981-07:00Beaty is displayed with red skin, blistered hands,...Beaty is displayed with red skin, blistered hands, and smoke covering him when he comes to visit Montague.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-50690874616471267532014-01-28T12:53:44.381-07:002014-01-28T12:53:44.381-07:00I don't think Mildred is happy but I don't...I don't think Mildred is happy but I don't think she even knows what happiness is so I think she doesn't realize how she feels Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-39844264737871167672014-01-28T12:53:40.107-07:002014-01-28T12:53:40.107-07:00I think Mildred is content, and that is worse then...I think Mildred is content, and that is worse then sadness. With sadness, you feel, but being content, there is nothing there. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-56691368209184869282014-01-28T12:53:25.507-07:002014-01-28T12:53:25.507-07:00To show the differences in the two types of people...To show the differences in the two types of people in the world. The ones that are like Beaty that want people to be the same and everyone equal, and the people that are like Clarisse who think outside the box and act out to voice their opinions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-14279234127393823432014-01-28T12:52:31.682-07:002014-01-28T12:52:31.682-07:00I do not think that they are portrayed as devilis...I do not think that they are portrayed as devilish/angelic, but rather they examples of the extremes of what their society contains. Clarisse is still very intelligent and observant by the world, something very rare for this society. She asks questions frequently and knows so many little facts. This is in contrary to Beaty's character.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-77464998403941476322014-01-28T12:52:31.226-07:002014-01-28T12:52:31.226-07:00I think that their lack of books as well as the gl...I think that their lack of books as well as the glorification that has seemed to be put on burning books has made them think books are bad things. I think that it is a natural reaction for people to act frightened by things they think are bad. For example, Mildred is afraid of books because she thinks they are bad for society as a whole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-6474680334344225572014-01-28T12:51:54.093-07:002014-01-28T12:51:54.093-07:00I don't think that he does, since he makes a s...I don't think that he does, since he makes a special trip to Montag's house ti tell him it's okay to have the urge but that he has to find out for himself that books are useless. He says on page 59 that eventually a fireman will want to know what exactly he is destroying, but he also clearly states how much he thinks books are useless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-641314852950498041.post-43041941317581802322014-01-28T12:51:42.416-07:002014-01-28T12:51:42.416-07:00Beaty almost represents the government, the societ...Beaty almost represents the government, the societal norm. He follows the rules and is fine living like that. While Clarisse is different compared to your average person. She thinks for herself and likes to talk to others. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com